Thanks very much for this!
One of my longer term goals is to learn German so I can make my own interpretations from the manuals. While I eventually plan to take some courses at LSU, this short guide will give me a head start
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| Author: | Sir Dallas [ Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Basic German Pronunciation Key |
Many of the historic sword manuals being studied are of Germanic origin, and the terms associated with the training methods are of course German. I've heard a lot of these terms mispronounced in the evolving western martial arts community (not withstanding dialect differences). Of course it's not terribly important to learning the techniques, but having a bit of knowledge in this area I thought I would offer up what I know. Having studied German for a year at SLU, I am by no means fluent. That being said, here's a basic german pronunciation key I put together. Anyone with better or more refined info is more than welcome to add to this thread. • "V" is pronounced like the english "F" So Vor sound like For • "W" is pronounced like the english "V" • "S" is pronounced like the english "Z" • "Z" makes a "ts" sound • "J" is generally pronounced like the english "Y" • In "IE or "EI" pairs the second letter is pronounced. So that Weiners, would sound like "Viners" and Wieners would sound like "Veeners" • "ß" the ess-zett basically replaces what we think of as the a doubles "SS" in some words. Okay the umlaut. They can be long and short just like english vowels. I seem to mostly encounter the long variety. • Ä long makes a long A sound as in day or Kate • Ä short is like similar to the english short "e" as in pet or net • Ö long. This one I think is hard for an english speaker. Somewhat like the vowels sound in urn or burn. • Ö short.. Not too sure on this one. • Ü long. Much like the sound in "pew" • Ü short. Not too sure on this one. Diphthongs. Avoid trying to pronounce the vowels separately, it should be one sound. • "au" sound like OW, as in pow. • "ai" somewhat like the long "I' in english, as in Vine • "oi" like it looks, as in coin |
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| Author: | Sir Eric [ Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Basic German Pronunciation Key |
Thanks very much for this! One of my longer term goals is to learn German so I can make my own interpretations from the manuals. While I eventually plan to take some courses at LSU, this short guide will give me a head start
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